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I have written to the 4 ministers, or shadows of Health, and of Energy, on this subject, and received replies indicating a lack of understanding and concern on these matters. One stating that no decision will be made before 2014, and consultations taking place this autumn, yet BG already putting meters in, and more damage is being done to health daily by the existing WiFi etc
They all need a lecture on basic Physics and Biology.Sadly the public are ignorant scientifically, and gullable.
Does anyone know of any device that can help me understand my usage better and help save me money. I dot like crawling in cupboards to read my meter. There must be a better way. I’m sending this by traditional internet connection so if Wendy can tell me how I can do this without getting frazzled by wi fi I wil shbdgsj shdgscbm flzzzz. …….whoops sorry, had a blackout……must be my iPad…. How do I send emails without using a computer Wendy? You arse.
Hi IP: 82.42.58.67 , cpc3-know6-0-0-cust578.know.cable.virginmedia.com,
Yes. it’s called an energy monitor. Available for about £20. Thanks for contributing, have you read what wifi can do to you, Frank? We thought wifi was a good idea too, once.
http://download.journals.elsevierhealth.com/pdfs/journals/0015-0282/PIIS0015028211026781.pdf
Fair play to you leaving my reply on. It’s a bit much to assume wifi will bring about the mortal doom you imply. I suppose if people start keeling over and glowing in the dark, you will have a point. Til then, this, like global warming, will remain in the fruitcake box to me. If it is such a concern to your health and well being, why not buy a plot of land next to Thelma’s Gypsy Girls, and create an Aimish community. What ailments are you suffering. I have some bottles of Dr. Good I can sell you……..
You’re entitled to think, and say, what you like, Frank, in spite of the ad hominem attack you levelled at Wendy. In respect of your point about buying a chunk of land and a caravan, and effectively hitting the eject button; currently, Smart Meters are voluntary, but most people don’t even know what they are, so won’t exercise their right to refuse one. This is good news for the companies pushing it. However, at some point, it is possible that this choice will no longer be available to us. Long before that point, though (in fact it’s looking like it might be NOW), we will be bathing in a sea of microwaves that will be virtually inescapable.
Your idea of feathering you’re own nest first and taking evasive action, if possible, is fine. For now. But at some point, it won’t be avoidable. And this programme is GLOBAL http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=115519311058367534348.0000011362ac6d7d21187; in a “global” Smart Grid, where do you run to?
We don’t suffer from ES, but many people do and their lives are a misery. There’s a view that 30% of the population experience some kind of sensitivity, but don’t realise it – headaches, sleeplessness, fatigue, etc. at the low end of the symptom spectrum. That number is increasing, and so are the symptoms. If you have doubts, as you’re right to have about anything that’s being “sold” to you – like global warming, wifi, Smart Grid, etc., then our recommendation would be to do your own research into it and draw your own conclusions from outside of the sphere of influence that large financial interests have. We’ve published links to details of more than 5,000 studies on this site (listed under Pages) and the effects of electromagnetic radiation and microwaves. We’re not selling you anything here. We can’t say the same for Big Energy, though.
Finally, whilst it’s not a concern to us that you’ve used a bogus email address to post here (and you already know that your IP address is logged), your action does show that there are some things many individuals would rather not let the world know about, and that there are things we like to keep private. It’s one of the reasons some of us wear clothes. In the ‘Smart’ Grid, though, every item in your house will have its own individual IP address, connected to and monitored by a Smart Meter. And it won’t be us on the end of *that* computer. It will be some highly sophisticated data modelling software and profit-hungry corporations seeking to interpret it.
You might not have anything you wish to hide, but the evidence suggests you do – as many of us do. It looks like we just don’t appreciate it yet.
Of course I wouldn’t leave my email on here – why would I, and apologies to the real Frank, if you have been pestering him. I think you are bonkers. The reference to wearing clothes is infantile at best. I don’t give a toss that my ip address is logged, as you state. Makes me laugh though that you are whining about this form of behaviour from Profit hungry corporations as you put it , then displaying the same sort of threatening behaviours you believe they do. My view is that Luddites like you simply stifle progress and would have been on the Jarrow march. Believe what you like, it keeps you busy I guess. I just wonder how you manage to cope going to work, using phones, using email, operating your key fob for your car, using a microwave oven, going on holiday through an airport and the thousands of other things that contribute to The sea of microwaves. Smart metering is minuscule by comparison I think and I would quite like one.
However, you are quite right about the comment I left earlier, which was uncalled for and for which I unreservedly apologise. I doubt I will post again, but good luck in your quest = I do think you will need it.
Why WOULDN’T you put your email here, Frank? Do you value having some privacy online? Do you value having privacy at home? Good luck with the latter – if you take a Smart Meter, as you imply, you’ll be forfeiting it. I drew your attention to your bogus email/IP address (which is done automatically on WordPress, incidentally) to demonstrate a point – that we have things that we would rather not share. Unfortunately, decisions around this are being made for us. Do you agree with that principal? The same applies to our analogy of wearing clothes – and we’re fine that your opinion on its validity as an argument differs from ours. Some people have an opinion about how much energy you and I should be using. http://www.euractiv.com/specialreport-prods-green-planet/pioneering-tory-mp-calls-persona-news-513659 And those people want their opinion enforced upon you. You say that you don’t agree with anthopogenic global warming theory – but you’re wanting to take a Smart Meter which is being promoted as the miracle (false) solution to it. But studies have repeatedly shown that Smart Meters don’t lead to a reduction in consumption. Energy monitors that you can buy online for about £20 allow you to become more aware of what energy you’re using and how – it does the same job as a Smart Meter’s in-home display but without you risking your privacy, your health, higher bills, and so on – so why is it you are so in favour of Smart Meters? Why do you suppose these non-networked energy monitors aren’t being promoted as the solution?
Regarding your accusation of us being luddites; the additional ad hominem aside, is this a website? Are we using technology right now? What kind of progress is it you’re talking about and that you see taking shape today? Do you think, on the whole, people are getting healthier, for example? What does progress mean to you, and to what end, exactly?
You are right that it’s difficult avoiding these technologies, but that’s part of the problem. When you say Smart Meters are minuscule by comparison, are you aware of how they can pulse at up to 190,000 times in a 24 hour period, and be up to 800 times stronger than cell phones? How often do you use your cell phone? 190,000 times a day? Does your phone have an off-switch, and are you capable of pressing it? If so, then there is a stark difference between that and the Smart Meter you want. That’s your decision though (and also your neighbours’).
Last one, promise. Are people healthier today? I guess so, if longevity is anything to go by. Why won’t I post my email address – because I don’t want to be bombarded with emails. Big difference than having a water meter sending out readings to a company. I would rather have that, than someone calling into my home to read the thing. . You are good at posting links – why not post the websites of actual products that pulse out 190000 signals in 24 hours and state the power outage so I can check for myself as I can’t find these. I have searched the internet for smart water meters and they all seem battery powered with low volt batteries. In fact my meter is in the footpath outside in a hole and it is a pain to read it myself. They just seem like radios stuck on the meter to me, so I can’t see a problem. Millions of smart phones, sat navs, pc’s and tablets are sold every single day. why are you ok wih these, but not a meter? I still think it’s a good idea. My bill would be right and I don’t have somebody ferreting round under my hall cupboard reading my meter every few months.
Are people healthier? Not if you look at the health of the pharmaceutical industry. According to this report from CNN (a quick search – it’s from 2008) pharmaceuticals was the third biggest industry in the world – and I don’t think that even includes Dr Good’s… (etworks and communications was number 1 – go figure). http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2008/performers/industries/profits. As the Children With Cancer conference in London in May reported, childhood brain cancer is up by 50% in the last ten years. Autism now affects IRO 1 in 30 children when just a few decades ago this was around 1 in 10,000. ADHD is on the increase and wasn’t even known about just a few years ago. Cancer is increasing across the board. Alzheimers cases are growing significantly. There is a diabetes epidemic. It doesn’t appear as though we are getting healthier at all.
Regarding outputs, this video that we posted discusses a document obtained under court order in California; http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/must-watch-smart-meters-health-privacy-explained-prof-glen-chase/ It showed that “Meter Read Data” was sent 6 times a day, “Network Management” messages were sent 30 times a day, “Time Synch” messages 360 times a day and “Mesh Network Msg Mgt” 190,000 times a day. They emphasised the “weighted average duty cycle” at only a few minutes in the document – because the bursts are so short. However, there is a huge body of evidence – which is growing – that these pulses are particularly harmful to human biology. Have a look at the video.
Re: specifications, here is a Smart Water Meter we believe Thames Water are trialling: http://sensus.com/web/usca/electric/product-line/smart-grid-communications-network
They say it “utilizes licensed frequencies in the radio spectrum to broadcast at an industry-leading 30 watts of power” – that’s 30 times more powerful than the average Smart Meter. BG have been asked to provide exposure values, safe distances, etc. If (and when) we receive this information, we’ll let you know.
Regarding your point about “smart” phones, [wireless] PCs, sat navs, etc being sold – when did we say we were OK with them? These technologies use the same kind of wireless communications that Smart Meters do – and there are some long-standing groups out there trying to make people aware of the dangers of them like we are with Smart Meters. We’ve posted some of their articles and studies here. Have a look at Dr Henry Lai’s presentation on our site on DNA fragmentation from cell phone exposure. Some of the groups raising awareness about EMR in general are listed on our blogroll. But Smart Meters impact on more than our health, as we’ve said. Our privacy is at stake. Sovereignty in the home is at stake. Safety is at stake. There is a huge threat from hacking and remote disconnects with an internet-enabled energy grid.
And you might get more accurate bills – although our recent post about the Smart Meter scandal in Australia shows evidence contrary to that – but the reality is that these energy companies are seeking a profit and if that’s the case, do you think your bills will go up or down? If they were looking at losing money with Smart Meters, do you think they’d be offering you one? A one year study in Toronto, Canada, showed that 80% of bills went UP after Smart Meter installations – and some by more than 50%. The industry talk is about Smart Meters being able to deliver “new tariffs” and it’s likely that these tariffs will be applied using extremely sophisticated data mining and modelling software to ensure continually bigger profits. Accurate readings or not. And like we say, you can get an energy monitor for next to nothing online – so you could put an end to fiddling under the sink right away.